One other category of consideration excluded from these rankings is long-term alumni success. In the past, articles have been written observing that, ipso facto, a strong program must graduate strong writers. This may be the case, but it is not necessarily so. Most programs concede in their promotional literature that they cannot teach talent, only (at best) craft; consequently, most programs know better than to take direct credit for graduate successes that may occur many months or even years after a student has left the program. More important, though, there is no viable method for measuring alumni success. There are simply too many tenure-track teaching positions, spots at writers colonies, book prizes, and miscellaneous writing-world laurels: To poll any appreciable percentage of the institutions offering such accolades for the biographies of their recipients—particularly when such biographical data is scarce online—would be impossible. Even if available, the use of such information would be limited. Does the success, in 2009, of a writer or poet who graduated from an MFA program in 1996 tell us anything about the present quality of that program? Given faculty turnover, and the other hard-to-quantify factors that inform a program's success or failure with respect to any one student, it seems unlikely—that is, if terms like success and failure are even appropriate or relevant at all. Likewise, and beyond the impossibility of linking any one achievement to any one period of instruction, how do we competently control for or weigh such factors as size of graduating class, degrees of achievement, and when an individual's MFA study took place? The only postgraduate assessment considered in this ranking is the determination of which programs have the most success (controlled for program size) in placing graduates in the few highly regarded, short-term post-MFA fellowships that exist. As the most pressing issue for graduating poets and writers is generally setting up a postgraduation employment plan, prospective applicants are likely to seriously consider what fellowship placement statistics say about cohort quality and program reputation.
Because there are 140 full-residency MFA programs in the United States, any school whose numerical ranking is in the top fifty in any of the ranked categories should be considered exceptional in that category.
So what is measured by these rankings, and how has the data for these measures been compiled? The most important element in the table that follows is a poll taken of more than five hundred current and prospective MFA applicants between October 2008 and April 2009. This survey was conducted on two of the largest online communities for MFA applicants, the Suburban Ecstasies and the MFA Weblog, and it differentiated among applicants on the basis of information they supplied for their individual user accounts for these communities. The data was also subsequently reviewed to remove the rare duplicate entry or multiple response. All poll respondents were asked to list, along with their genre of interest, either the programs to which they planned to apply, or, if they were not yet applicants but expected to be in the future, which programs they believed were the strongest in the nation. Finally, data from the 2008-2009 application season was compared with data from the preceding two application cycles to spot any significant unexplained deviations; fortunately, there were none. While certain programs have ascended in the rankings and certain others have descended over the past three years this poll has been conducted, the most dramatic movements can be linked to, variously, the hiring of new faculty, the creation of new programs at highly regarded universities (currently, an average of six new programs are founded each year), significant amendments to program funding packages, and improvements to the transparency of programs' online promotional materials.
While the response to this poll from applicants and the MFA programs themselves has been overwhelmingly positive, what few criticisms have emerged generally run along one of two lines: that the poll "merely" measures the popularity of any program among current and prospective applicants, and that such individuals are not, in any case, the best arbiters of program quality, having not yet experienced either the benefits or the shortcomings of any program. These concerns have been addressed in myriad forums online over the past three years, but, generally speaking, the most succinct answer to these charges is that the 2009 poll, as well as the two previous iterations of the poll, does not measure the sort of subjective, highly individualized assessments current and former students of the various MFA programs can supply. Nor does the poll rest on the view, once taken by U.S. News & World Report, that MFA faculties know better than their students or applicants which programs are the most esteemed. Neither MFA faculties nor current or former students of the programs themselves are tasked with determining the current state of affairs in the field of creative writing MFA programs; this is the unique province, and the special task, of current applicants. MFA faculties are not paid to follow the minute, year-to-year details of the scores of full-residency MFA programs in the United States, nor is there any particular reason for them to do so, as they are, first and foremost, working writers. Current and former MFA students likewise are to be considered expert only in their own program's particularities, and with regard to those particularities they are not especially good respondents for polls because of the significant possibility of observer bias. Applicants, in contrast, are far more likely to have no particular horse in the field, and to have acknowledged the importance of the matriculation decision to their own futures by rigorously researching a wide variety of programs.
Some may wonder why these rankings do not address MA programs in English that offer creative writing concentrations, low-residency MFA programs, or creative writing PhD programs. Apart from the fact that the time and resources available for this rankings project were necessarily finite, the applicant pools for these other types of programs are much smaller than the one for full-residency MFAs and therefore are extremely difficult to sample accurately. Moreover, low-residency programs in particular are not amenable to the same type of categorical assessment as full-residency programs: Generally speaking, low-residency programs do not offer much if any financial aid, cannot offer teaching opportunities to students, employ highly tailored Internet-based pedagogies and instructional schemes, are less likely to be gauged on the basis of their locales (as applicants only spend the briefest of periods on campus), and, because their faculties are part-time, are more likely to feature star-studded faculty rosters. It would be unfair to these programs, and to their full-residency counterparts, to attempt a straight comparison between the two groups. These same types of concerns also exist, to a varying extent, with non-MFA creative writing degrees. For instance, MA degrees in creative writing (or in English with a creative writing concentration or creative thesis) are not terminal degrees, and so are structured as much to prepare students for future doctoral study as for immediate immersion in the national creative writing community.
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jelhai replied on Permalink
Low-residency programs
Seth Abramson wrote: "Generally speaking, low-residency programs do not offer much if any financial aid, cannot offer teaching opportunities to students,...are less likely to be gauged on the basis of their locales (as applicants only spend the briefest of periods on campus), and, because their faculties are part-time, are more likely to feature star-studded faculty rosters."
Given that hundreds, surely thousands, of people DO apply to low-residency programs each year, doesn't that suggest that many of the qualities measured in these rankings are unimportant to a significant number of students? And what is the basis for asserting that low-residency faculties are more star-studded than others? Even if it were true, how would it matter?
Finally, don't rankings merely offer a lazy short cut to school selection, perpetuating the myth that some programs are inherently better than others, when prospective students would benefit most by finding the program that is best suited to their individual aims and needs? You may not intentionally provide these rankings as a template for school selection, but you can bet that many people will foolishly use them that way, just as people use the US News & World Report rankings.
Seth Abramson replied on Permalink
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Hi Jelhai,
You're absolutely right that the hundreds (not thousands; the national total is under 2,000) of aspiring poets and fiction-writers who apply to low-residency programs annually are, generally speaking, a very different demographic than those who apply to full-residency programs: they tend to be older, they are more likely to be married and/or have children, they are more likely to be professionals (i.e. have a career rather than a job), they are more likely to be (only relatively speaking) financially stable, they are more likely to have strong personal, financial, or logistical ties to their current location (hence the decision to apply to low-res programs, which require minimal travel and no moving). That's the reason this article did not contemplate low-res programs, in additional to the reasons already stated in the article. So when the article makes claims about MFA applicants, yes, it is referring to full-residency MFA applicants. Assessing low-residency programs and their applicants would be an entirely different project, requiring a different assessment rubric as well as--as the article implicitly acknowledges--a different series of first principles about applicant values.
As to the rankings that are here, keep in mind that what you're seeing is an abbreviated version. The full version, available either in the upcoming print edition or as an e-book (available for purchase on this site), includes data categories for each school: duration, size, funding scheme, cost of living, teaching load, curriculum focus (studio or academic). These are some of the most important "individual aims and needs" the hundreds and hundreds of MFA applicants I've spoken with over the past three years have referenced. Indeed, I've even done polling (the first-ever polling of its kind) to ask applicants what they value most in making their matriculation decision: in a recent poll of 325 MFA applicants (where applicants could list more than one top choice), 59% said funding was most important, 44% said reputation (e.g. ranking) was most important, 34% said location, 19% said faculty, and much smaller percentages said "curriculum" and "selectivity."
These rankings (and the article above) specifically urge applicants to make their own decisions about location, but provide ample information about funding, reputation, curriculum, and selectivity--four of applicants' top six matriculation considerations. Needless to say, many applicants will have "individual aims and needs" that they need to consider in making their matriculation decision, and I always urge them to look to those needs with the same fervor they consider (as they do) funding, reputation, location, and so on. But to imply these rankings haven't done the necessary footwork to ask applicants what their primary aims and needs are is simply incorrect. In fact, in the poll referenced above applicants were given the opportunity to vote for "none of the above"--meaning, they were invited to say that their top consideration in choosing a school was something other than the six categories referenced above. Only 1% of poll respondents chose this option. So when we speak casually of "individual aims and needs," I think we need to remember that these aims and needs are no longer as unknowable as they once were--largely due to efforts like the one that produced these rankings. And again, for those who don't see their own aims and needs reflected in the data chart that accompanies this ranking (and which you haven't seen yet), I say--as I always say--that these rankings and this data should be used only as a starting point for making an intensely personal and particularized decision.
Take care,
Seth
Seth Abramson replied on Permalink
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P.S. I should say, too, that the poll I mentioned above is just one of many. Another poll (of 371 applicants, where applicants could pick more than one first choice), showed that 57% of applicants have as their top "aim" getting funded "time to write," 42% say employability (i.e. the degree itself), 36% say mentoring (which causes them to primarily consider program size, as program size helps determine student-to-faculty ratio), 34% say "community" (which again causes applicants to consider program size, though it pushes many of these applicants to consider larger programs, i.e. larger communities), 19% say "the credential" (again, as represented by the degree itself, though this also pushes such applicants to favor shorter programs, with a lower time-to-degree), and much smaller percentages said that they wanted an MFA to validate themselves as writers or to avoid full-time employment (very similar to wanting "time to write," per the above, just as "validation" is intimately related to "mentoring" and "the credential"). Again, these polls were not intended to be exhaustive, though it's noteworthy that 0% of poll respondents chose "none of the above."
clairels replied on Permalink
Suspicious
A graduate of Harvard Law School and the Iowa Writers' Workshop
I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but you have to realize how suspicious this looks.
Seth Abramson replied on Permalink
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Hi Clairels,
I'd respond to your comment, but honestly I have absolutely no idea what you mean to imply or what your concern is. I attended both those programs (J.D., 2001; M.F.A. 2009), and certainly don't regret either experience.
Take care,
S.
Seth Abramson replied on Permalink
P.S. I think it was the
P.S. I think it was the reference to HLS that threw me. If you're talking about my IWW affiliation (as I now see you might be), I don't know what to tell you except to say that you won't find a single person who's well-versed in the field of creative writing who's surprised by Iowa's placement in the poll--a poll that was taken publicly and with full transparency, and whose results are echoed in/by the 2007 poll, the 2008 poll, the (ongoing) 2011 poll, USNWR's 1996 poll, and the 2007 MFA research conducted by The Atlantic. Iowa has been regarded as the top MFA program in the United States since the Roosevelt Administration (1936). In three years of running MFA polls I'll say that I think you're the first person to suggest to me (even indirectly) that Iowa might have finished first in the poll for any reason other than that it finished first in the poll (to no one's surprise). So no, I can't say that I see my affiliation with the IWW--an affiliation I share with thousands of poets (Iowa graduates 250 poets every decade) is "suspicious." --S.
sweetjane replied on Permalink
To be fair, Seth, I think
Seth_Abramson replied on Permalink
Hi SJ, Sorry for any
J Thomas Lore replied on Permalink
Acceptance Rates
J Thomas Lore replied on Permalink
And Seth, there was a link
Seth Abramson replied on Permalink
Hi JTL, Per my contract
sweetjane replied on Permalink
"Sorry for any confusion--my
Seth_Abramson replied on Permalink
Hi Phoebe, I've addressed
sstgermain replied on Permalink
question about collection of information
Seth_Abramson replied on Permalink
Hi SSTG, This was one of
ewjunc replied on Permalink
nothing is absolutley objective
sethabramson replied on Permalink
Hi ewjunc, The article's
OKevin replied on Permalink
Hi Seth, Good job. Have a
sethabramson replied on Permalink
Hi there Kevin, thanks so
illingworthl replied on Permalink
Re: UNH Core Faculty--include Mekeel McBride, please!
sashanaomi replied on Permalink
Other factors: health insurance
Since Seth Abramson is considering cost of living and funding, I think he should consider another, really huge factor: Does the school offer health insurance? There are some very highly ranked CUNY programs. Yes, CUNY is cheap, but there is no health insurance. If you really want to commit to a writing program, you don't really have time for a full-time job with health benefits. Health insurance was a big factor in my selection, and I'm sure it is for many others as well.